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| Click here to select a new forum. | | Restoring a Quadra 700 (warning: photo heavy) | Posted by: AlpineRaven on 2022-01-15 03:40:50
Thanks both for the kind words.
I've just done the oscillator swap, replaced 50Mhz oscillator with a socket and 66.66 Mhz oscillator:
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Cheers
AP | Posted by: MacKilRoy on 2022-01-15 06:11:50
By doing oscillator swap - have you run any other issues?
Cheers
AP
A Quadra 700 which has been clocked differently than itโs stock clock speed will fail to run Apple A/UX operating system. Generally that would be the only drawback.
I believe overclocking it changes the returned Gestalt value, resulting in some oddities like described above. There may be other issues relating to booting or installing certain Mac OS versions as a result. | Posted by: jessenator on 2022-01-15 07:42:50
By doing oscillator swap - have you run any other issues? Thankfully the biggest issue with everyday operations on a Q700 is just overclocking too much. 33 was my limit before losing features, system stability, but your mileage may vary.
I can't speak to A/UX in depth. I managed to get version 3 completely installed on mine, however I was unable to keep it running after several bootings due to a degenerative spinning HDD malady. I'll be happy to proven wrong with other examples, as I'm simply one witness.
The Gestalt ID problem is more a concern for 040 Macs where a) board resistors' effects on gestalt and frequency/driver value are interconnected (475/605) and b) where board resistors change the gestalt only, but that in turn changes memory timings from ROM and prevents POSTing or booting at higher frequencies (650/800)
I haven't looked into the 63x/64x Macs, but they appear to follow a derivative process that of the 475/605.
MacKilroy is correct though, that these unused gestalt IDs fail in operations where the system enabler doesn't have those IDs.
The gestalt does not change on a 700, as far as I've used it. | Posted by: djhaloeight on 2022-02-07 05:40:14 Machine looks great! I always loved the looks of the Q700. | Posted by: joshc on 2023-07-14 13:06:56 This machine is on its way to a new owner in Germany who I'm sure will get lots of enjoyment out of it. ๐
My Quadra journey continues with a different machine which I'll be posting about shortly. | Posted by: bamdad on 2024-12-27 12:56:09 does anyone have a link for the 66MHz oscillator (and preferably the socket) on mouser or some site in EU? | Posted by: bamdad on 2024-12-30 04:14:28
does anyone have a link for the 66MHz oscillator (and preferably the socket) on mouser or some site in EU? to respond to my own question i found this (the 66.666 one).
if anyone could confirm this is what i'm looking for i'd be really grateful, otherwise i'll just order it and give it a shot. | Posted by: CuriosTiger on 2025-01-24 17:55:53
I recently scored a Quadra 700, a few weeks ago I had some time to give it some love. Here's what I did...
This Q700 really wasn't in bad condition to start with, and already worked, so my main focus was to clean everything up and improve anything I could as I went along.
To start with, I fully disassembled it - the case and logic board had some dust bunnies, nothing awful but it needed a clean.
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The internal case came out well after a quick brush to remove the dust:
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The front switches and clear plastic LED piece for the front power LED were removed and dumped in hot soapy water:
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The black side strips that run along the length of the machine were cleaned, they were rather dirty!
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The rear I/O panels and NuBus slot openings were cleaned out
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Some photos of the case before cleaning:
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The top lid before cleaning:
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Washing up liquid and a scrub is all I'm going to do on this.
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Came out really well...
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Same treatment for the front
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Front vents were cleaned/rinsed out:
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All the other little bits were cleaned and dryed
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The logicboard was brushed down and lightly swabbed with IPA:
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Starting to put things back together, looking quite sparkly and new really:
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The floppy drive was definitely the dirtiest part of the whole machine...
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I already knew it read disks OK, so I thought it worthwhile giving it a full clean - but I also knew it wouldn't eject disks, so there's something going on there.
The drive carrier was a bit dusty, not too bad.
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That was rinsed and dried off, looks great now
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So.... onto the floppy drive.
Before:
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After some initial brushing to remove the worst dust:
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Removing more bits revealed more dust...
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Going further, lets clean it up...
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Yep, broken eject gear. Same old same old. I don't have a spare replacement right now - so will have to return to this another time.
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New grease applied - I was probably a bit liberal with it but I can always remove access afterwards
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Everything back together. Can't fully test just yet because of that missing eject gear but what an improvement!
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Back to finish off the rest of it...
SCSI2SD installed, and the original activity LED hooked up to it:
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Looking rather smart, albeit more yellow than my 6200, but still nice and clean now and ready for BUSINESS:
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And most importantly, the original HD activity LED works great...
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A few days ago, I did a few more things:
Replaced the dirty and noisy original PSU fan with a new one.
Stock fan:
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Replaced with a Noctua NF-A8 PWM:
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I also ordered some new RAM, to bring the total from 20MB to 68MB (including 4MB onboard):
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Things remaining to do:
- Clean out power supply and recap it
- Remove the original oscillator and replace with a DIP socket/new 66Mhz oscillator to crank clock speed from 25Mhz to 33Mhz
- Get a new eject gear for the floppy drive Nice cleanup. I did a similar one on my Quadra 700, although I haven't tackled the floppy drive yet, and I probably ought to recap the PSU. | | < 2 |
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