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Is audio playback on a Classic even possible?
Posted by: OlaHughson on 2013-11-17 09:07:02
I got a keyboard now; I just lack a mouse πŸ™‚



Posted by: uniserver on 2013-11-18 02:53:23
ok so/so news.

The only 680nothing machines i can get to play AIFF's is the Macintosh Portable and Macintosh PowerBook 100

I am thinking its because of the hardware allows it.

I am going to do some more testing to see how far i can push it before it skips.

right now all i have is 10 and 22Khz mono, I am going to try stereo next πŸ™‚

Posted by: MinerAl on 2013-11-18 02:55:30
how about a System 7 sound file/snd resource?

Posted by: uniserver on 2013-11-18 03:08:55
sorry, what is your question?

- plus

- se

- classic

i still get the normal sounds, and enhanced sounds with SoundMaster with these compacts.

just as far as sfplay(plays aiff's), the only 680nohting macs that will output sound with that app is Portable and PB100.

Posted by: uniserver on 2013-11-18 03:32:59
ok the powerbook 100,

only plays 1 second of a

44khz

8bit

mono

AIFF file. and locks up solid.

next i will try

22khz

8bit

stereo

its about the same size, 28mb

Posted by: Dav on 2013-11-18 03:42:49
@uniserver

The only 680nothing machines i can get to play AIFF's is the Macintosh Portable and Macintosh PowerBook 100I am thinking its because of the hardware allows it.
I agree with you : an Apple Sound Chip may be required. I try a workaround by putting a Sound Manager 3.0 extension in the System folder (available in System Update 3.0 for 7.1] - just to test if the sound API of the Sound Manager could emulate in software what could not be done in hardware) but with no sucess in 6.0.7 ; perhaps could it work with 7.1.

Posted by: uniserver on 2013-11-18 03:45:24
22khz8bit

stereo
ok this works with the powerbook 100

πŸ™‚ sounds pretty good too. But it pretty much makes the PB about useless,

its so slow, you can't multitask or use it much at all. AIFF File takes complete priority.

Even the mouse movement is lagged.

also i was wrong about the file size,

this complete 3.5 min song was 28megs @ 44khz 8bit mono, the same song was only 14 meg's @ 22khz 8bit stereo.

Posted by: uniserver on 2013-11-18 18:51:25
here is a video of the powerbook 100 playing a song.

Mac Bandet and its sound effects / multitasking stopped the music from playing… but its fine πŸ™‚

Quick reboot and it was playing AIFF's nicely again. NOT BAD FOR ONLY 500K memory usage πŸ™‚

https://plus.google.com/photos/100890837144428718359/albums/5947783562513152497/5947783567330415154?banner=pwa&pid=5947783567330415154&oid=100890837144428718359

Posted by: uniserver on 2013-11-18 23:36:46
last video i promise, the Macintosh Portable playing an AIFF, with only 1mb of ram (i realized later)

https://plus.google.com/photos/100890837144428718359/albums/5947846783905982433/5947846788051504178?banner=pwa&pid=5947846788051504178&oid=100890837144428718359

Posted by: Dav on 2013-11-19 08:16:13
here is a video of the powerbook 100 playing a song.
too sexy πŸ˜›b:

Posted by: MinerAl on 2013-11-19 13:14:25
I was asking about System 7 sounds because I would swear I was able to play them on my Plus.

I just used SoundApp (in 9.2.2 Classic OS mode in 10.2.8 on a G4 wind tunnel) to turn a WAV version of "Dance the Night Away" by Van Halen into a System 7 Sound. It's 15 MB (about half the size of the WAV), but it plays the whole song in Classic.

Dug out a Mac Classic (Sys 7.5), and it wouldn't even try to play the 15MB file (being in the neighborhood of 8x the RAM available). So I went back and made a 30-second mono clip that weighed in at 1.4MB. I double clicked it, it began whirring away with the watch and... nothing. It plays the simple Quack, Indigo, Sosumi sounds, but not a complex 30-second System 7 sound.

Betcha it'd work on a PB100 though πŸ˜›b:

Posted by: Scott Baret on 2013-11-19 13:25:15
I was actually playing around with my Plus two nights ago. The Disney Screen Saver (After Dark) has a lot of music (I think it's MIDI but I could be mistaken) and it plays fine on the Plus. It just takes a while to load. System 7 sounds work on a Plus, too. That is, of course, if you run System 7 πŸ™‚

Posted by: uniserver on 2013-11-19 13:40:17
I bet the Macintosh II will play AIFF's

but then again that is a 68020, so that's not too exciting for me πŸ™‚

university of michigan has a great old mac freeware archive

http://www.umich.edu/~archive/mac/

http://www.umich.edu/~archive/mac/sound/sounds/99bottles.cpt.hqx

this plays on the SE/plus/classic

the computer will sing 99 bottles of beer on the wall and count down.

http://www.umich.edu/~archive/mac/sound/sounds/rapmaster1.01.sit.hqx

this one is rap master, it gives you a record you can scratch and make funky beats πŸ™‚

Posted by: uniserver on 2013-11-20 01:49:13
hey so the Plus / SE / Classic

they only have a 4 voice sound processor?

Trying to find a Software Midi Player for the 68000 mac.

i am getting a lot of mixed info.

basically Quicktime 2.0 could play midi's for me. but that requires an 020 cpu.

I do not have any MIDI hardware. just the Sound I/C's soldered to the main board.

There has to be a app i can download that would allow me to play a midi file, even if it

cuts out @ only 4 voices.

Maybe have it play some Cannon_D or maybe _C ? or does such software not really exist for the 68000 cpu… / sound hardware...

Posted by: OlaHughson on 2013-11-20 13:33:12
I got a mouse now, but... How is that possible that i doesn't see the System Folder on the hard drive? :x

Posted by: OlaHughson on 2013-11-20 14:45:45
Also: I cannot boot from any system 7 image - address error. And when trying to install, it invokes unimplemented trap. Now my mac is without a working system ;x

Posted by: mcdermd on 2013-11-20 15:27:21
Will it boot from ROM (Command+Option+X+O)?

Posted by: uniserver on 2013-11-20 15:33:12
sounds like the main board needs some caps.

Posted by: OlaHughson on 2013-11-20 16:12:45
Will it boot from ROM (Command+Option+X+O)?
Yes.

Posted by: uniserver on 2013-11-20 21:39:20
https://picasaweb.google.com/100890837144428718359/November202013#5948521156137347682

Video of the Macintosh SE, soundage, best I could do πŸ˜›

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