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RAID IIci
Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2012-12-15 08:56:15
Just a thought, any reason why one could not just find 9 bare resistors and jam them in there?
Not bad, not bad at all . . .

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. . . that'd be 24 resistors w/3 voltage lines, three 9 pin rows of Machine Pin Headers, a 6 x 9 piece of copper clad perf ProtoPCB, a little soldering . . .

. . . and a bit of pretty wire sculpture . . . [😉] ]'>

. . . me likes it! :approve:

oP, PM me an addy and I'll get the machine pins & perf board in the mail to you.

< fires up Adobe Illustrator >

Posted by: olePigeon on 2012-12-15 11:16:28
Thanks for the offer, but probably don't need to. 🙂 I'll hit my local surplus today and see what they have in terms of regular resistors.

I got my other 15K RPM SCSI drive, but it makes a weird noise after it spins up. Almost like a fart. It was funny at first, but now it's just damn annoying when I fire up my G4.

I think I'm going to just pay a few extra bucks and get a couple 68pin 15K RPM drive. They're $25 instead of $6, but it may be the price to pay to avoid headaches. Plus, I could use one in my vintage Mac just for kicks. Probably Fujitsu since that was the one I had before and it was whisper quiet. I don't think these adapters work too well, and I don't think the SCSI drives can detect what kind of HDD is on the chain (which screws up termination.)

Posted by: onlyonemac on 2012-12-17 09:43:11
RAID 0 is for speed, not data retention, right? I always get those mixed up.
Can't you use a different RAID (not sure of the number) for data loss prevention? If I was putting two RAID disks in my Mac, it would be in case one of them failed (a common problem), not to increase speed!

Posted by: olePigeon on 2012-12-17 10:22:25
I have everything backed up on an MO drive, so I'm not worried about losing anything. 🙂 I'm going for silliness!

Posted by: olePigeon on 2012-12-17 19:30:22
Tadaaa! It fits!

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Here's a picture of the lid. I ended up drilling out the rest then did a rough sanding in the grooves. Looks pretty bad right now. But it's just in the testing phase.

001.jpg

I'm going to fill the grooves with some putty, then very light coat of silver paint.

And a picture of the inside. I'm planning on installing my JackHammer card, then I'm going to test the speed difference between a single drive, 2 drives on the onboard SCSI, then 2 drives on the Jackhammer.

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Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2012-12-17 19:38:23
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Posted by: olePigeon on 2012-12-17 19:42:32
I also realized I need to make a shim of some sort for the top drive to keep it lined up correctly.

Posted by: olePigeon on 2012-12-18 08:37:40
Here's the performance graph for a RAID 0 using the onboard IIci SCSI. When I get home today, I'm going to test it with the Jackhammer if I can get it working. Requires 2 resistor packs, but I only have the 1. I'll try jamming some in there.

iiciscsi00.gif

Posted by: onlyonemac on 2012-12-18 09:08:39
Tadaaa! It fits!
Sort of.

Posted by: olePigeon on 2012-12-18 10:07:42
If you're talking about the "gap," that's just how the IIci looks. It has that inset running along the perimeter of the computer. The lid is attached appropriately for that model.

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Posted by: trag on 2012-12-18 13:44:26
HI'm going to test it with the Jackhammer if I can get it working. Requires 2 resistor packs, but I only have the 1. I'll try jamming some in there.
You might try Herb Johnson http://retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/ for the resistor packs. He sells a bunch of old stuff and might have them laying around.

Posted by: Bunsen on 2012-12-19 05:24:03
find 9 bare resistors and jam them in there?
resistors w/3 voltage lines, three 9 pin rows of Machine Pin Headers, a 6 x 9 piece of copper clad perf ProtoPCB, a little soldering . . .
Er, I admit I was thinking more like just literally jamming eight (not nine) resistors into the appropriate holes, crimp/twisting the ends together with a lead to the ninth hole.

a different RAID (not sure of the number) for data loss prevention
RAID 1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#Standard_levels

Posted by: olePigeon on 2012-12-19 09:25:10
Hrm. I get a 00000001 0000000F Sad Mac error when I plug any hard drive into my Jackhammer card. My Sad Mac App says it's a Bus error. Can't seem to get it to boot with anything connected to the Jackhammer. Dang it.

Posted by: onlyonemac on 2012-12-19 09:32:13
If you're talking about the "gap," that's just how the IIci looks. It has that inset running along the perimeter of the computer. The lid is attached appropriately for that model.
Sorry, yeah. The slightly angled photo, combined with my unfamiliarlarity of the Mac's usual appearance, got me a bit confused :I .

Posted by: krye on 2012-12-19 09:33:49
Am I the only one here that cringes when you guys start hacking and cutting into cases? Seems sacrilege.

Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2012-12-19 09:36:21
😛
Posted by: onlyonemac on 2012-12-19 09:39:06
Yeah, I do as well...

Posted by: olePigeon on 2012-12-19 11:03:38
That's OK, I have a second IIci that's stock and unblemished. This one is my workhorse. I'm beginning to wonder if my Jackhammer is broken.

Posted by: olePigeon on 2012-12-20 09:19:36
Rats! Foiled again! One of the 250MB HDDs bit the dust. It was making weird noises already. I'll raid 2 40MBs and give those a go. I also made my own resistor pack using 9 resistors. Not sure if they'll work or not.

Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2012-12-20 09:30:21
Snag a pair of big U-160 10k Drives. The gyroscopic effects in a IIci might prove interesting. [}🙂] ]'>

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