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Posted by: Mars478 on 2009-08-08 07:05:33
Thanks for all the valuable info. Does anyone have a take apart guide? One of the HD/FD caddies on the one with the Radius card, is popping out, thus won't let me shut the top. Both HDs spin up, but none of them show video to one of my old VGA CRTs with an adaptor. I tried both, and the Radius card on the one that has it.
The Ram Doublers are very strange! I wonder how much ram this machine has, the SIMMS are not labeled. Both have the Developers switches.
None of them Chime though.
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Sorry for the bad quality, using an iPhone.
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Posted by: protocol7 on 2009-08-08 07:17:16
Nice catch :jealous:
Here's the service manual:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VJ8TAHW6
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Posted by: Mars478 on 2009-08-08 07:22:24
Does the IIci need a ROM Simm? Both of mine don't have that...
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Posted by: JRL on 2009-08-08 07:31:53
The IIci is rather picky about the monitors which it can provide video output to. Only ones that support sync-on-green are OK.
Try an Apple Color Plus '14, which is on sale at here. It's compatible with the built-in and (most likely) video card video of your Macintosh IIci.
and no, there were no ROM SIMMS ever made, so there is no need for one.
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Posted by: Mars478 on 2009-08-08 08:13:32
Phew!
So an Adaptor that I am using will NOT work...
I also have the Radius Card in one of them, Does that have the same restrictions as the On-Board Video?
Are the RAM Doublers common? I have not seen those ever!
Both also have Cache cards in them.
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Posted by: JRL on 2009-08-08 08:23:45
No, it's just your VGA monitor's problem.
and tbh, I have never seen a 30-pin one strangely. xD
and the radius card will prob. work with an LCD w/adapter fine.
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Posted by: Mars478 on 2009-08-08 16:35:57
I am trying the Radius Direct Color GX, with an NEC Adaptor to both of my VGA CRTs and none of them detect it :-/
When I get back to NY, I'll try it with the LCD that worked with my Performa 6200.
Both HDs Spin up, but none of them chime... Any ideas?
I also got the one that didn't close to close. So yep, looking pretty good.
By the end of this week, I may be able to get an WhiteBook and a TiBook. That will make it the most conquests ever in a week for me.
eMac, IIcis, and 'Books.... MMMM
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Posted by: macgeek417 on 2009-08-08 22:35:07
The Bernoulii wasn't really all that rare and was actually a slightly better technology than Syquest's. Yeah - I've got the 2nd edition of Macs for Dummies, where David Pogue discusses the SyQuest vs Bernoulli issue, and he was saying that "you'll hear all the time about SyQuest disks going bad, but you'll never hear of a Bernoulli going bad", but I think he did also point out that because of their expense in comparison to SyQuest drives, they didn't catch on as much.
I have an early version of that! its the Updated for System 7.5 one
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Posted by: JRL on 2009-08-08 22:43:10
Check the speaker connections/try swapping the speaker units around.
If there is no change, everything might be due for a cap replacement. 🙁 trag sells complete IIci kits though.
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Posted by: Mars478 on 2009-08-09 08:11:39
Thanks for the info.
Here are the floppies that came with it. I will make images of them.
"Macintosh Basics" Says "Start up from this disc"
"Apple Network product installer"
"Macintosh Printing Tools"
"Macintosh System Tools"
"Macintosh Utilities Disk 1"
"Macintosh Utilities Disk 2"
"Microsoft Word, Apple Macintosh Series Version 4.0"
"Microsoft Word, Utilities 1, Apple Macintosh Series"
"Microsoft Word, Utilities 2, AutoMac III macro package, Word Finder electronic thesaurus, Apple Macintosh Series"
"Symantec Utilities for Macintosh II, SUM #1, For Macintosh Plus and higher"
"Symantec Utilities for Macintosh II, SUM #2, For Macintosh Plus and higher"
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Posted by: macgeek417 on 2009-08-09 11:46:07
Thanks for the info.Here are the floppies that came with it. I will make images of them.
"Macintosh Basics" Says "Start up from this disc"
"Apple Network product installer"
"Macintosh Printing Tools"
"Macintosh System Tools"
"Macintosh Utilities Disk 1"
"Macintosh Utilities Disk 2"
"Microsoft Word, Apple Macintosh Series Version 4.0"
"Microsoft Word, Utilities 1, Apple Macintosh Series"
"Microsoft Word, Utilities 2, AutoMac III macro package, Word Finder electronic thesaurus, Apple Macintosh Series"
"Symantec Utilities for Macintosh II, SUM #1, For Macintosh Plus and higher"
"Symantec Utilities for Macintosh II, SUM #2, For Macintosh Plus and higher" I'll host the images for you if you want.
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Posted by: Mars478 on 2009-08-09 12:27:21
MacGeek: Thanks! But I have a server. 😀 When I get back to NYC I'll image em.
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Posted by: JRL on 2009-08-11 16:41:02
Just to try helping, how many RAM sticks are there? The reason why the Macintosh IIcis might not be giving video is because you don't have matching sets installed.
Find a set of 4 matching SIMMS. Do not install the SIMM Doubler. Install the SIMMS in slots #1-4.
Attach your CRT w/Mac-VGA adapter to the Radius video card.
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Posted by: Mars478 on 2009-08-12 10:30:18
I'll try some matching sets. There are just random sticks in there. The Radius card, display absoulutley nothing. I think it may be toast.
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Posted by: JRL on 2009-08-12 10:39:46
Well, if you just toss in random sticks, then there won't be a display at all I believe. You have to have a matching set of four.
So don't toss out that Radius card! :O
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Posted by: Mars478 on 2009-08-14 12:14:16
OK Good news and bad news. After removing the RAM that was put in there randomly it CHIMES!
And Half a second later, it does the death chime... on BOTH of them!!! xx( 8-o
Any ideas? PRAM?
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Posted by: JRL on 2009-08-14 12:23:32
Sounds like you still did something wrong.
Grab a matching group of 4 30-pin SIMMS. That means they have to be the SAME.
Put them in slots 1-4, nowhere else and carefully install them until they are in the RAM slots and you see the RAM clips fastening the RAM right.
If you still get a death chime, something else is the culprit.
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Posted by: Mars478 on 2009-08-14 16:20:21
Oh in groups of 4?
I was doing in groups of 2 will update with results
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Posted by: JRL on 2009-08-14 21:34:33
Oh in groups of 4?I was doing in groups of 2 will update with results Yep, that's the key. The reason why your Macintosh IIci's gave off a death chime is because:
1: The RAM was configured/installed incorrectly (in your case)
2: The RAM is just toast, which is unlikely
Any "Old-World" Macs will do that too in any of the situations above however.
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Posted by: Mars478 on 2009-08-15 05:55:29
WE HAVE A CHIME!!!! I put in 4 sticks of Mitsubishsi RAM Starting with one near the HD.!!!
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