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So what about the famous Apple ][ series?
Posted by: Apostrophe on 2009-01-21 15:40:16
Oh, okay. Thanks David! 🙂 That clears things up!

-Apostrophe

Posted by: magnusfalkirk on 2009-01-21 16:03:54
To answer your question on the "size" of the IIc it is 11 1/2 inches wide by 12 inches long by 2 1/4 inches high. So it should fit just about anywhere. You'll want to put the carry handle, on the rear, down so that it is propped up. That way you'll get air flow underneath to help keep it cool.

Dean

Posted by: luddite on 2009-01-21 17:02:03
To answer your question on the "size" of the IIc it is 11 1/2 inches wide by 12 inches long by 2 1/4 inches high. So it should fit just about anywhere.
Except in spaces smaller than 11.5 x 12 x 2.25"

😛

Posted by: magnusfalkirk on 2009-01-21 17:52:26
To answer your question on the "size" of the IIc it is 11 1/2 inches wide by 12 inches long by 2 1/4 inches high. So it should fit just about anywhere.
Except in spaces smaller than 11.5 x 12 x 2.25"

😛
obviously, [😀] ]'> but that size makes it fairly easy to use in most places. And if you notice I did say "just about anywhere". [🙂] ]'>

Posted by: Dog Cow on 2009-01-22 08:02:26
No disk I/O will be possible without booting a DOS, but you can type in and run programs. Or, enter the monitor (CALL -151) and poke away at machine language.
Practically, you're correct about no disk access, but technically, no. You could type in enough machine language routines and essentially "type DOS into memory." 8-o

So, disks aren't "needed," but they are very, very useful.
To expand upon that, you need a disk to do anything useful. I don't believe that the IIc has a tape port. If it did, you could use a cassette in place of a disk to store your programs on one side, and music on the other. ;D

Posted by: Charlieman on 2009-01-22 11:58:10
You could type in enough machine language routines and essentially "type DOS into memory."
You have too much time, Dog Cow ;-) . However mortals can type in enough guff to enable a Super Serial card to receive data from a second computer, thus creating a boot disk.

Posted by: Apostrophe on 2009-01-22 13:31:24
Apple IIc just arrived! (Minus the power supply; I'll have to contact the seller to ask about that)

It certainly looks yellow, and it's a bit dirty, but otherwise the keys seem great, etc. How do you open the case, though? If I can't run it just yet I can at least make sure all the parts are intact...

Just in case the sellers don't find a power supply, does anyone here have one that they might want to offer?

Thanks,

-Apostrophe

Posted by: Dog Cow on 2009-01-22 14:54:36
You could type in enough machine language routines and essentially "type DOS into memory."
You have too much time, Dog Cow ;-) .
I would never do that. I only got the idea because I read that Woz had to type in the BASIC interpreter into his Apple I every time. He did it so often, he had it memorized.

Posted by: david__schmidt on 2009-01-22 16:43:28
How do you open the case, though?
Flip it over, unscrew the screws. See:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/143520-3/anatomy_of_an_icon_inside_the_apple_iic.html

Posted by: Apostrophe on 2009-01-22 18:01:31
Aargh! I got all the screws out, but I can't get the case off! It seems to be sticking near the spacebar, in the center front. Any good ways to get the case off?

-Apostrophe

Posted by: david__schmidt on 2009-01-22 19:11:57
You could type in enough machine language routines and essentially "type DOS into memory."
You have too much time, Dog Cow ;-) .
I would never do that. I only got the idea because I read that Woz had to type in the BASIC interpreter into his Apple I every time. He did it so often, he had it memorized.
Or, you could send DOS in via the serial port, a la:

http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/bootstrap.html#Bootstrapping_DOS

Posted by: II2II on 2009-01-22 19:12:16
By carefully prying with a thin flat head screwdriver. The Apple IIc has plastic clips holding the cover together.

Posted by: luddite on 2009-01-22 22:36:53
Aargh! I got all the screws out, but I can't get the case off! It seems to be sticking near the spacebar, in the center front. Any good ways to get the case off?
Did you try dropping it a few inches with the handle down? That usually pops it apart without leaving marks.

Posted by: Apostrophe on 2009-01-23 14:02:11
I managed to get the case off (I did end up gouging the casing a tiny bit) but after a look at the interior I realized that opening it up again anytime soon won't be necessary.

This Apple IIc, despite having a dirty outside, has a pristine interior! Shiny logic board, no signs of leakage...and I even cleaned the casing and keyboard, so now the whole thing looks pristine! 🙂

So now I need a power supply so that I can see what this thing can do!

-Apostrophe

Posted by: luddite on 2009-01-24 10:16:29
I've heard you can run a IIc off a 12v car battery... just a thought.

Posted by: Apostrophe on 2009-01-24 14:44:54
I've heard you can run a IIc off a 12v car battery...just a thought.
Umm...no, I think I'll pass on that one. 😉

Posted by: Scott Baret on 2009-01-24 18:33:19
Very interesting...I suppose if the voltage is correct it may work though.

I know this is somewhat off-topic, but since car batteries have been brought up, does anyone know of a good tutorial online that shows how to disconnect the cable from a car battery to reset a fluke check engine light?

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