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Posted by: macgeek417 on 2009-02-20 16:19:28
Unforunately, both mirrors are down as far as I can tell. ...Have you checked???
The closest i have had in luck (stupid google) is getting a google cache of http://mac.the-underdogs.info/download.php?id=258
I need a cache of http://mac.the-underdogs.info/download.php?id=258&loc=1
archive.org doesnt even have that much
Grrrr...
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Posted by: tecneeq on 2009-02-21 00:18:26
It's not how big, but how long it will stay online. Also connection/download speed. Slow sites are the worst. *cough*LINE*cough*
I disagree. Speed is totally irrelevant. I can get a file with 5kb/s or 5000kb/s, but i get the file in each case. If a site is offline however, then i would call this the worst kind of site 😉 .
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Posted by: phreakindee on 2009-02-21 08:20:37
Unforunately, both mirrors are down as far as I can tell. ...Have you checked???
The closest i have had in luck (stupid google) is getting a google cache of http://mac.the-underdogs.info/download.php?id=258
I need a cache of http://mac.the-underdogs.info/download.php?id=258&loc=1
archive.org doesnt even have that much
Grrrr...
Yes, I have checked.
Here's the file index.
http://web.archive.org/web/20080106023835/mac.the-underdogs.info/index.php?show=all
And here's a game download page, for Oregon Trail.
http://web.archive.org/web/20061125095903/mac.the-underdogs.info/download.php?id=101
Each "mirror" is really linked through the-underdogs.info, which obviously is down. Neither of them work. The links themselves use a script, so I'm not even sure what domains they actually link to.
?id=101&loc=0 theunderdogs.org
?id=101&loc=1 Mirror 1 (Europe)
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Posted by: Dog Cow on 2009-02-22 12:24:36
It's not how big, but how long it will stay online. Also connection/download speed. Slow sites are the worst. *cough*LINE*cough*
I disagree. Speed is totally irrelevant. I can get a file with 5kb/s or 5000kb/s, but i get the file in each case. If a site is offline however, then i would call this the worst kind of site 😉 .
Nope, I'd rather have an offline site than a site with slow as heck downloads. 😛
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Posted by: EllCee575 on 2009-03-01 18:05:11
Thank you so much for MacHut and The Macintosh Conservatory.. We should start something to get Macintosh Garden back up..I for one was so close to finally grabbing all the games I wanted back..and then BAM! it hit me as hard.. as hard as I'd imagine it hit some of you..
I'm gonna ask my family/friends if they have any old mac software lying around that I could borrow. I'm turning an old G3 iBook into my gaming machine. It runs Mac OS 9.1, so in my mind, that's good enough to run a significant number of old PowerPC era games..and maybe some 68K..I wish my dad hadn't got rid of our old LC575.. (my username is a reference to a childhood computer)
I have a buncha games on my family's old first-gen iMac, mostly demos and freeware I collected..will see about exporting those to the Conservatory and MacHut.
Bumping this thread to say that we really need to revive the spirit of Macintosh Garden as best we can..I miss certain games that you could find there and not other places, and I hope anyone who finds new software to share with us can do so. It's pretty tricky when you're using an Intel Mac that has no support for Classic, much less the oldies..
😀
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Posted by: phreakindee on 2009-03-01 18:08:37
I have a buncha games on my family's old first-gen iMac, mostly demos and freeware I collected..will see about exporting those to the Conservatory and MacHut.
Bumping this thread to say that we really need to revive the spirit of Macintosh Garden as best we can..I miss certain games that you could find there and not other places, and I hope anyone who finds new software to share with us can do so. It's pretty tricky when you're using an Intel Mac that has no support for Classic, much less the oldies..
😀 LC 575... that's actually the machine I'm using to upload the files to the site. :beige:
Thanks for the support! If you run across any oldies, PM me here or contact me at Mac Conservatory. Just found a good one myself, Space Madness. It's on the site now, and I recommend it!
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Posted by: joshc on 2009-03-01 23:56:11
I emailed someone who is familiar with the Macintosh Garden situation, and asked if it's going to get back online or not.
Here's the reply I got:
Hi Josh,
It looks pretty grim. The webhost for MG's parent site Home of the Underdogs has declared bankruptcy. The MG and Underdogs admins haven't touched their sites or answered our pleas in years, and UD's only public statement about the bankruptcy was a one-sentence Twitter post. I doubt either of them have backups of MG's database, with its 10,000 threads of community discussion (and 1.2 million of automated spam.)
(Seriously... those are the actual numbers. If the average spam was only 100 bytes, that works out to several dozen novels' worth of spam.)
Meanwhile, the moderators and regulars have copies of all 900-odd games between us -- we just have nowhere to put them. (We were in contact with a web developer who offered to build and host a more robust site, but haven't heard from him in a couple months. So it goes...)
Dax 🙁
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Posted by: LCGuy on 2009-03-02 01:18:51
DAMN! 🙁
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Posted by: Christopher on 2009-03-02 08:00:09
Preterhuman is back on hotline again. :b&w:
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Posted by: joshc on 2009-03-02 23:18:23
Preterhuman is back on hotline again. :b&w: It has been for a few months...
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Posted by: benjgvps on 2009-03-03 15:41:10
Try emailing the person back and showing them that hotline site, I am sure they would agree to upload what they do have.
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Posted by: Tom` on 2009-03-03 21:40:08
There's an effort to resurrect Home of the Underdogs going on right now, and I would appreciate it if someone who has access to the Mac Garden files could get in touch.There is a Google group at http://groups.google.com/group/hotu-revival. Thanks!
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Posted by: Dog Cow on 2009-03-05 12:50:55
I'm going to join that group; looks promising. 🙂
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Posted by: Paul Sondervan on 2009-03-13 05:30:47
Is there still hope?
When I try to go to http://mac.the-underdogs.org, the upcoming screen says: webserver is up and working.
Let's hope this is the start of a renewal of Macintosh Garden.
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Posted by: closeddoors1559 on 2009-03-20 11:13:11
Is there still hope?
When I try to go to http://mac.the-underdogs.org,'>http://mac.the-underdogs.org, the upcoming screen says: webserver is up and working.
Let's hope this is the start of a renewal of Macintosh Garden. While this link is http://mac.the-underdogs.org, the real site is http://mac.the-underdogs.info .
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Posted by: returningmacuser on 2009-03-21 15:33:35
Wackymacs, do you have enough room on the Mac Hut to support the archive?
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Posted by: joshc on 2009-03-23 00:57:54
Enough space, yes, bandwidth, probably not. Why? Do you have a complete/partial mirror of the files?
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Posted by: CaryMG on 2009-03-23 09:26:50
Man ....
Talk about synchronicity. lol
I'd just read that MG was down today, then read a another message that said some people were working to get it back online.
They said around April 1st, 2009 -- ignore the date coincidence! lol -- that there should be, at the very least, a placeholder website here > Macintosh Garden v2.0
:b&w:
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Posted by: returningmacuser on 2009-03-23 12:58:58
Enough space, yes, bandwidth, probably not. Why? Do you have a complete/partial mirror of the files? No. I just thought it might be helpful for the people keeping the archive. |
Posted by: PelicanPete on 2009-03-26 05:21:24
BTW the Home of the Underdogs is back www.hotud.org
I've been asked to add some Mac games to the database via Excel spreadsheet.
I started last night, had 50 games down and turns out it didn't save....
PEBKAC I think.
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