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| Performa 6116 liberated.. and today I went back for the 6400 |
Posted by: aphetica on 2007-11-28 15:29:40
Nice little machine you got there.
I have always liked that style of case and someday will own one of those.
It's so... odd-looking, and cute. I named it Evil Calvin because the drive icon was Calvin's angry-looking face from Calvin and Hobbes. ;D
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Posted by: aphetica on 2007-11-28 15:34:11
You can get Open Transport from http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html which should do the trick (or put a more modern OS on there, 7 is not good for PPCs anyway as it's mainly 68k code - Mac OS 9.1 is the newest the machine can take and will have everything you need straight out of the box 🙂 ) Do you think I'll see a considerable loss/gain in speed if I switch to 9?
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Posted by: The Macster on 2007-11-28 15:39:54
Opinion seems quite divided on it, some people say use older OSes whereas others (such as me) always run the absolute latest-and-greatest OS that a machine can take. 9.1 will be slower than 7.5 as the extra features outweigh the more PowerPC-native nature of 9, but I feel the trade-off is worth it as it is so much more modern and 7 is not really a PPC OS. If you wanted to meet more in the middle between speed and modern-ness, 8.1 or 8.6 might be worth a look as they are lighter than 9 but have more PPC-native code and are still somewhat more modern than 7.x. This machine will never be a speed demon though (unless maybe if you install some serious upgrades like a G3 card), I have a 6100 with OS 9.1 and the OS itself is reasonably responsive but it takes literally minutes to boot and apps are slow on it - since getting my G3 I don't use it any more, it's too much of an unpleasant experience and there's no reason to use that rather than the G3, which I've been enjoying even more since getting a G4 upgrade for it. I haven't used anything other than 9.1 on it so I don't know how much slower 9 is than the older ones though. If you have a spare hard drive you could always try 9.1 on that and see what you think of it though 🙂
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Posted by: Torbar on 2007-11-28 22:33:58
alright then il spel it out
those rainbow stickers are both valuable and wanted
you just destroyed a collectors item Nope, not at all a collectors item.
They're on ebay all the time, unused, unlike the one he had, which was used and probably not in such good condition. I have like, 10 of them still on the sheet, all of which I got for free at different points in time.
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Posted by: aphetica on 2007-11-30 22:46:28
So today I went back for the 6400...
It cost me $25, but I really couldn't just leave it there to fend for itself.
Knowing the kind of abuses that the 6116 suffered, I knew it had to be saved... and plus when I asked the woman how much ram it had, she told me 512.
Knowing a 6400 tops out at 136mb, I did a search for "Performa 6400" and "512", and I got a bunch of returns about upgrade cards, so I thought maybe that was what she was talking about.
So anyway, I brought it home along with yet another monitor, printer, and scanner, which I don't need. All of them were disgusting and looked like they had never been cleaned.
I pulled the mobo and discovered a 56kmodem, a whopping 8mb of ram, a 1.4gb hdd, and a stock processor. Crap. 🙁
Nevertheless, I cleaned the case and gave it a fresh install of 8.6.
Anyone have any ideas about what I should do with this thing? I already have a 6400 with better specs than this one.
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Posted by: Bunsen on 2007-12-01 00:48:28
Keep it for spare parts.
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Posted by: aphetica on 2007-12-01 01:39:03
Keep it for spare parts. Usually that would make sense, but the only thing I could use from this machine is the motherboard. (if anything should ever actually happen to my good one)
I guess I could always put the 8mb stick in one of the 63dozen ram slots in my 7600. I never understood why those had such a high ram capacity... :?:
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Posted by: Franklinstein on 2007-12-01 06:02:23
If the modem is really 56k and you have no desire to keep it, you might try selling it on eBay; internal 56k modems for pre-B&W G3 Macs are relatively rare. Somebody out there may be in need of a CS II 56k modem for their old box... I may have one of these at most in a beige G3, the rest are 28.8 or 33.6, though of course I don't use dialup anymore (except when I use my 540c as a fax machine).
As for the rest of it, I can't think of anything I'd do with it. I'd probably keep it for parts - you never know when you may need a spare drive, or power supply (if you can get it out of there, haha). The motherboard is also interchangeable with a number of models if fitted with a different rear plate and PCI riser (6360 and 5400-series), plus more if the power system is modified (6200/5200, maybe the 630).
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Posted by: aphetica on 2007-12-02 01:45:38
If the modem is really 56k and you have no desire to keep it, you might try selling it on eBay; internal 56k modems for pre-B&W G3 Macs are relatively rare. Somebody out there may be in need of a CS II 56k modem for their old box... I may have one of these at most in a beige G3, the rest are 28.8 or 33.6, though of course I don't use dialup anymore (except when I use my 540c as a fax machine).
As for the rest of it, I can't think of anything I'd do with it. I'd probably keep it for parts - you never know when you may need a spare drive, or power supply (if you can get it out of there, haha). The motherboard is also interchangeable with a number of models if fitted with a different rear plate and PCI riser (6360 and 5400-series), plus more if the power system is modified (6200/5200, maybe the 630). Speaking of different PCI risers, was there ever a model with a single-slot riser?
And I think the modem probably was 28 or 33, I never really checked what speed it was since I don't really have a use for one.
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Posted by: Franklinstein on 2007-12-02 01:49:13
The 64/6500s were the only ones with dual PCI risers - the 6360 and the 54/5500-series had single PCI risers.
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Posted by: Bunsen on 2007-12-02 02:28:48
Although I believe the single risers from the 54/5500 and the duals from the 64/6500 are interchangeable, as the motherboards are identical.
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Posted by: alk on 2007-12-02 09:58:01
They are interchangeable, but they won't mate up with the backplane correctly. The tray designs are different.
Peace,
Drew
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Posted by: aphetica on 2007-12-02 17:30:46
They are interchangeable, but they won't mate up with the backplane correctly. The tray designs are different.
Peace,
Drew That's alright. As long as it works. I could always make modifications to stabilize the card.
Does anyone have a pic of a single-slot riser?
I need to find out if it's actually shorter than a dual-slot card and by how much.
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Posted by: Quadraman on 2007-12-02 19:13:05
They are interchangeable, but they won't mate up with the backplane correctly. The tray designs are different.
Peace,
Drew That's alright. As long as it works. I could always make modifications to stabilize the card.
Does anyone have a pic of a single-slot riser?
I need to find out if it's actually shorter than a dual-slot card and by how much.
The problem isn't stability, it's that it won't line up with the opening in the backplane.
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Posted by: aphetica on 2007-12-02 23:24:45
The problem isn't stability, it's that it won't line up with the opening in the backplane. That's not a problem.
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