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Reverse Engineering the Macintosh SE PCB & Custom Chips for 1:1 reproduction
Posted by: Kai Robinson on 2020-10-10 20:35:17
DM me your address and i'll mail one. 

Posted by: ajacocks on 2020-10-10 23:54:09
DM me your address and i'll mail one. 
Kai,

Did you mail me a functional board?

Thanks!

- Alex

Posted by: Kai Robinson on 2020-10-11 09:15:31
Was it green? If so, no, i'll send you out a new one - Rev 1.4c is the latest. 

Posted by: cheesestraws on 2020-10-11 10:14:34
how is everyone else doing with theirs?
The last couple of weeks have been intense at work and my mental health has been poor so progress has been slower than I like.  I’ve made decent headway on the passives though...

Posted by: techknight on 2020-10-11 13:43:03
 my mental health has been poor 


Preaching to the choir there brother. 

Posted by: Kai Robinson on 2020-10-13 22:49:05
To show how serious i am about this project...I just bought a working 200MHz, 96 channel logic analyzer from eBay - comes with all 4 Pods, 14/16/18/20 pin DIP analyzer clips, 40 and 48 pin DIP clips and literally every probe going - i even have the floppies in the bag. I've already ordered a Gotek floppy replacement and i have an image of all the disks needed to work it. CRT is crisp as hell, bright, no burn-in. I'm also bidding on a Tektronix Oscilloscope and a hot air station for the SE/30 stuff moving forward. I am 100% COMMITTED to making a working one in the next 12 months, and I have every hope that Rev 1.4c is the final version...

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Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2020-10-14 15:32:09
Like we needed proof of your dedication? 🙂) I've been watching with much interest, nice toys there, rock on!

Posted by: Kai Robinson on 2020-10-15 22:37:47
Well you know, taking a break can sometimes reduce interest in a project...

Posted by: LaPorta on 2020-10-15 22:50:15
Your dedication is commendable. I only wish I had the background and expertise for this sort of thing. Maybe later in life I can learn.

Posted by: paws on 2020-10-16 06:58:28
Nice tool! I've read that some of those big logic analysers can understand the processor bus cycles and even do disassembly of captures. Does yours do anything like that?

Posted by: Kai Robinson on 2020-10-16 12:34:17
@paws - not sure, i've yet to have a proper dig into it yet or even read the manual - waiting on the Gotek to arrive!

Posted by: paws on 2020-10-16 16:27:34
Even if you just get binary read-outs it's a great help. I've got a 2ch/16 bit Agilent MSO (an old one), and in some cases it's been a fantastic help, but TBH 16 bit just doesn't cut it for 68k systems. I've got at least one reversing project that's stranded on lack of logic analyzer channels, so I'm a little jealous of what you've got.

Posted by: Kai Robinson on 2020-10-16 16:31:15
Well, if you want to undertake the reverse engineering of the SE customs - you're welcome to take the analyzer 😀

Posted by: chiptripper on 2020-10-17 02:23:29
I've been following (lurking) this project for a while and decided to create an account to say that this is a really worthwhile effort. I'd love to see similar undertakings for other 68K systems.

Posted by: olePigeon on 2020-10-18 18:04:57
Just out of curiosity:  if you're going to be cloning the SWIM chip, would it be possible to make it so you can daisy-chain floppy drives like you can on the Apple II?  I don't know if there are other hardware limitations, or if it could be implemented via the SWIM chip.

Posted by: techknight on 2020-10-18 21:07:23
I assume repopulating your latest PCB didnt work? 

Posted by: Kai Robinson on 2020-10-18 22:32:35
@techknight I've not even started yet - between heart issues and easing back into work again, i've just not had the chance. Ie - on Saturday, I slept for 12 hours straight - i will give it a go this coming weekend though...

Posted by: techknight on 2020-10-20 04:13:17
@techknight I've not even started yet - between heart issues and easing back into work again, i've just not had the chance. Ie - on Saturday, I slept for 12 hours straight - i will give it a go this coming weekend though...
Oh wow. I am sorry to hear that has happened. Hopefully you get well soon and not catch this corona nastiness in the process, wish you the best 🙂

Posted by: joshc on 2020-10-22 10:47:39
@techknight I've not even started yet - between heart issues and easing back into work again, i've just not had the chance. Ie - on Saturday, I slept for 12 hours straight - i will give it a go this coming weekend though...
Your health comes first, rest up! The SE board will wait as will the rest of us 🙂

Posted by: Phazmatis on 2020-10-29 14:21:42
If making a custom PCB, it would be interesting to make a SWIM that works with standard IBM floppy drives instead. And/or even IDE hard disks. IMHO more valuable to the future of retromaccing than making a 1:1 SWIM. But! Do whatever is most fun! 🙂
 

p.s: Sorry to hear about health issues! Hope you feel better soon!!

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