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Building an internal grayscale card for the SE/30
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2023-04-02 05:31:28
@Paulie got annoyed that I hadn't installed mine yet and came to do it. Now there is all the purple in the SE/3w3.

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Posted by: Louie on 2023-04-02 13:35:33
@Paulie got annoyed that I hadn't installed mine yet and came to do it. Now there is all the purple in the SE/3w3.

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I need this
Posted by: dankcomputing on 2023-04-06 14:33:52
There's a $10 one? Where can that be found?
There was a pile of iisi PDS Pivot video cards on eBay for peanuts about 10 years ago. Everyone bought one and they're long gone.
Posted by: zefrenchtoon on 2023-04-09 12:49:46
@Paulie got annoyed that I hadn't installed mine yet and came to do it. Now there is all the purple in the SE/3w3.

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OMG !!

So much purple in there !! XD
Posted by: dankcomputing on 2023-04-17 14:18:18
This is correct... at the moment.
The original Formac ProNitron card on which this design is based used a software controllable "switch" to change the video clock(-devider) so that it could display 1- and 8-bit.
@Bolle had a hard time fiddling with this and ended up doing "8bit only" for now. But he can fill you in much better than I can... I'm just the software guy (and happy to flick that switch any time 😉).

So yes - Currently, if a game/application insists on b/w it will get a "𝖁𝖊𝖗𝖇𝖔𝖙𝖊𝖓!" from the card and send back home 😢
It's not just 1-bit either - tons of very important games also rely on 4-bit color being available. I wish I could help fix this, sounds like a weird hardware design choice.
Posted by: Byrd on 2023-04-18 01:19:17
Like others I’d love this, but the lack of original B&W 1-bit output is a deal breaker for me. Is it a feature that might come?
Posted by: joshc on 2023-04-18 01:34:55
Like others I’d love this, but the lack of original B&W 1-bit output is a deal breaker for me. Is it a feature that might come?
That's what multiple SE/30s are for. 😛
Posted by: s_pupp on 2023-04-18 07:39:53
That's what multiple SE/30s are for. 😛
Exactly. I’ve got ten of ‘em. My wife refers to them as a “family of SE/30’s.”
Posted by: joshc on 2023-04-18 08:35:36
Exactly. I’ve got ten of ‘em. My wife refers to them as a “family of SE/30’s.”
My partner just says "What's the point? They all look the same." or "What does this one do that the others don't?". I try to explain but she quickly loses interest. 🙂
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-04-18 09:06:56
My partner just says "What's the point? They all look the same." or "What does this one do that the others don't?". I try to explain but she quickly loses interest. 🙂
My missus has offered to start a support group.
Posted by: joshc on 2023-04-18 09:23:33
My missus has offered to start a support group.
I thought this was the support group?
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2023-04-18 09:38:16
My missus has offered to start a support group.

I thought we were the support group

edit: Hah, @joshc beat me...
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-04-18 10:59:13
@joshc @cheesestraws

As you both well know, I mean for the partners. You're only saying that because the thought of them getting organised and teaming up scares you 😉
Posted by: mg.man on 2023-04-18 11:33:56
the thought of them getting organised and teaming up scares you
Oh yeah!!! Terrifying thought! (shudders)
Posted by: tact on 2023-04-28 00:13:32
This is so amazing! 8D
When will these be available? Ive been dying to get grayscale in my se30 to complete it!
Posted by: joshc on 2023-04-28 01:01:59
@tact

from @Bolle profile:


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Posted by: jdcurry on 2023-05-14 17:48:29
Exactly. I’ve got ten of ‘em. My wife refers to them as a “family of SE/30’s.”
I believe I would be served divorce papers... If I can eventually 'trade up' one (or both) of my SEs for an SE/30 then I would be interested in getting it all decked out with purple. But the simplicity of the SE (and less leaky caps) has its own charms too.
Posted by: CharlieFrown on 2023-06-21 07:00:27
I think I would settle with grayscale only 🙂 no need for external color monitor.
Posted by: Nixontheknight on 2023-06-21 08:40:41
I think I would settle with grayscale only 🙂 no need for external color monitor.
same, especially when in use with Bolle's Twinspark, I would rather have ethernet on the external port than a monitor port
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-06-21 08:43:19
same, especially when in use with Bolle's Twinspark, I would rather have ethernet on the external port than a monitor port
You can do both ports with bolle's riser. I have a video card (another card, not Bolle's or a micron) wired into the 15pin dsub and the RJ45 for ethernet.
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