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Posted by: mdeverhart on 2022-05-20 18:25:25
Does anyone have a copy of the LC Developer Note? I found the LC II one, but it points to the LC one for a lot of details since their architectures are so similar. So far my Google-fu hasn’t turned up anything. |
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2022-05-21 02:01:58
I'd like a copy of this too. |
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-08-13 13:35:05
Bringing this back from the dead - does anyone have a copy?
Attached CC and LC II because they're similar. But I'm looking for the original. |
Posted by: max1zzz on 2023-08-14 05:15:18
I have a copy of it from one of the apple developer CD's. Will dig it out when I get home from work today |
Posted by: mdeverhart on 2023-08-21 05:33:01
I have a copy of it from one of the apple developer CD's. Will dig it out when I get home from work today That would be great, thanks! |
Posted by: David Cook on 2023-08-21 10:42:37
I have a copy of it from one of the apple developer CD's. Will dig it out when I get home from work today
I haven't downloaded the full set, but I recall trying to locate the LC developer note without success. It's almost like it was intentionally held out. Someone said they received a book where those pages are blank. |
Posted by: max1zzz on 2023-08-21 10:57:16
I 100% have it, need to dig out my old laptop as I can't remember for the life of me which Dev CD it was on
I found them, extracted them from the CD but never got around to converting them to PDF. Will report back later tonight (if I remember this time!) |
Posted by: max1zzz on 2023-08-21 11:59:21
Here you go, also attached a few other dev notes that where on the same CD but not in my devnotes folder (they may be elsewhere though)
These are in Word for mac 4 format IIRC and will need converting before they are useful on modern systems
For those interested these came from the Oct 92 dev CD |
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-08-21 12:10:01
Here you go, also attached a few other dev notes that where on the same CD but not in my devnotes folder (they may be elsewhere though)
These are in Word for mac 4 format IIRC and will need converting before they are useful on modern systems
For those interested these came from the Oct 92 dev CD Thank you Max 🙂 |
Posted by: mdeverhart on 2023-08-21 20:08:20
Awesome, thanks! |
Posted by: mdeverhart on 2023-08-23 06:39:33
Does anyone know what font Apple typeset the developer notes in? I’m pretty sure I don’t have it installed, as the figures all look a little off on my stock OS 9 machine with Word 5.1.
I’d like to get the right fonts installed so I can convert it to PDF with everything looking correct. |
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-08-23 07:17:44
Does anyone know what font Apple typeset the developer notes in? I’m pretty sure I don’t have it installed, as the figures all look a little off on my stock OS 9 machine with Word 5.1.
I’d like to get the right fonts installed so I can convert it to PDF with everything looking correct. It usually says in the copyright notice or somewhere at the start of end of apple docs. |
Posted by: joshc on 2023-09-19 03:37:25
Has anyone managed to convert the old Word files into correctly formatted PDFs yet? If not I can add it onto my list of things to tackle. |
Posted by: mdeverhart on 2023-09-19 07:12:28
I have not. I got as far as getting them onto an OS 9 machine and opening them in Word, but the formatting in a bunch of figures like the block diagrams was wrong. I’m wondering if the originals had figures which were produced differently for the hard copy, and then (poorly) converted to Word drawings for the soft copy. I tried Word 4 and Word 5 and installed the fonts called out on the copyright page, but it didn’t help.
I’m not going to be able to get back to it anytime soon, so feel free to add it to your list if you have time 😀 |
Posted by: David Cook on 2023-09-20 14:01:07
It usually says in the copyright notice or somewhere at the start of end of apple docs.
Indeed! There is a fancy word for that: "the colophon". : )
Apple says: "Text type and display type are Apple's corporate font, a condensed version of ITC Garamond®. Bullets are ITC Zapf Dingbats®. Some elements, such as program listings, are set in Apple Courier." I wonder if Apple ever included these fonts in a developer CD, maybe as part of DocViewer or something.
I have Garamond Narrow, Zapf Dingbats, and Courier installed. I am using Word 5.1 and PDFWriter 3.0. In Word, it is obvious that the correct fonts are not being selected, and the current font name control doesn't indicate what it thinks the font should be. Opening the document in HexEdit shows no font names except in the illustrations, where 'Garamond-Light' and 'Garamond-Bold' show up. That may be a clue. I am guessing that the Word 4 document format stores the font number (or font family number) and not the font name.
Does anyone know of a technical note or list of official font numbers given to font names by Apple?
Attached are the original files in a .sit to preserve creator/owner/resources along with my poorly converted PDFs. |
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-09-20 14:17:09
Apple says: "Text type and display type are Apple's corporate font, a condensed version of ITC Garamond®. Bullets are ITC Zapf Dingbats®. Some elements, such as program listings, are set in Apple Courier." I wonder if Apple ever included these fonts in a developer CD, maybe as part of DocViewer or something. Ooohh, way back in the 90s we had a copy of "Apple Garamond". We also had the official VW font for some reason... I don't even know how!
I'm a long way from home and am not even sure where such things would be saved. Besides, I'm currently working on trying to get my dad to archive his huge collection of Microspot 3DWorld plugins. Been trying for months. They're not online :/ |
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-09-20 14:18:54
official VW font Just remembered what it was called "VAG Rounded". |
Posted by: Fizzbinn on 2023-09-20 14:49:00
For those interested these came from the Oct 92 dev CD I wonder if the original CD these Dev notes came from included info on what you needed to view them?
Attached are the original files in a .sit to preserve creator/owner/resources along with my poorly converted PDFs. Thanks, enjoying a first read of the LC one. I'm such nerd for these docs I feel like I'm studying the Dead Sea Scrolls. So far my favorite new (to me) insights:
Page 18 - VRAM Options:
No VRAM: Although not recommended, it is possible to install a SIMM containing two 74LS373 transparent latches. With this configuration, the Macintosh LC computer uses the main memory for storing video data and can support only the 640 x 480 x 1-bit monochrome video mode.
Page 31 - Network booting
The Macintosh LC computer is designed to provide future support for network booting (for example, starting up from a file server rather than an internal disk drive). The network booting feature is active only if the PRAM value is set correctly. This feature will allow you to use the control panel to set a flag in the ADB microcontroller that causes the system to boot over a communication network such as Ethernet or LocalTalk. |
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-09-20 15:19:31
The Macintosh LC computer is designed to provide future support for network booting (for example, starting up from a file server rather than an internal disk drive). The network booting feature is active only if the PRAM value is set correctly. This feature will allow you to use the control panel to set a flag in the ADB microcontroller that causes the system to boot over a communication network such as Ethernet or LocalTalk. So I've heard netboot related things for the three sisters, the LC, Classic and IIsi.
Someone said that it appeared as an option when they had a specific ethernet card in a IIsi.
Be nice if we got it working someday. I wonder if there are any clues in the SuperMario System source leak. |
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2023-09-20 15:21:17
Someone said that it appeared as an option when they had a specific ethernet card in a IIsi.
That was something in the network card's ROM.
Be nice if we got it working someday. I wonder if there are any clues in the SuperMario System source leak.
There are. See here: https://github.com/elliotnunn/NetBoot |
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