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Lobos board (Strange Apple ROM)
Posted by: Performa450 on 2022-01-20 02:45:45
I recently picked this 1 MB ROM peculiarity up - 4x 2 Mb flash ROMs... anyone know either what this is (other than a 1992 ROM SIMM 🙂, or an official rominator... ) or an easy/inexpensive way to dump this to find out whats on it? I've not seen a "Lobos Board" before.

The only period Mac I have is an SE/30 board without PSU, disks or display.
Posted by: demik on 2022-01-20 03:11:17
Does it chime on your SE/30 board ?
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2022-01-20 03:31:44
That's definitely a thing I've never seen before. Where on earth did you find this? 😀
Posted by: Performa450 on 2022-01-20 03:47:06
That's definitely a thing I've never seen before. Where on earth did you find this? 😀
Online from eBay last year - they didn't have anything else interesting in stock at the time (or recently sold): https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_dm...4275809011&store_name=macmemoriesstore&_oac=1
Posted by: Performa450 on 2022-01-20 03:49:01
Does it chime on your SE/30 board ?
I don't have a suitable PSU for the board at the moment - could try it if that would be something to try - I have a VGA display adapter so can connect a display up.
Posted by: demik on 2022-01-20 12:41:45
So one of the way would be to remove all chips and dump them with an EEPROM reader. The easiest way would be to find a compatible RAM and dump from there.
Posted by: demik on 2022-01-20 14:53:53
So one of the way would be to remove all chips and dump them with an EEPROM reader. The easiest way would be to find a compatible RAM and dump from there.

A compatible Mac*
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2022-01-21 03:02:25
I don't have a suitable PSU for the board at the moment - could try it if that would be something to try - I have a VGA display adapter so can connect a display up.

Do I remember that you're in the UK? If so, I have a spare CRT you can have if we can work out how to get it to you safely, don't think I have a working spare PSU though. Do you have an AB?

edit: hmmmmm, I'm not sure if I've got a spare yoke or not. Will have to check...
Posted by: Johnnya101 on 2022-01-21 03:37:05
Maybe a member here would be willing to do the work for you that has the equipment needed? That would be the cheapest and easiest way.
Posted by: Performa450 on 2022-01-21 11:16:35
Do I remember that you're in the UK? If so, I have a spare CRT you can have if we can work out how to get it to you safely, don't think I have a working spare PSU though. Do you have an AB?

edit: hmmmmm, I'm not sure if I've got a spare yoke or not. Will have to check...
I’ve only got the board unfortunately.
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2022-01-21 11:23:29
I’ve only got the board unfortunately.

Oh, right. So a loose CRT isn't going to be much user to you, then. Sigh.
Posted by: Performa450 on 2022-01-21 11:28:50
Oh, right. So a loose CRT isn't going to be much user to you, then. Sigh.
Thanks for doing the offer all the same though. Hopefully I can find someone local with a compatible machine.
Posted by: Performa450 on 2022-01-21 11:30:35
Maybe a member here would be willing to do the work for you that has the equipment needed? That would be the cheapest and easiest way.
Yeah I’m mainly interested to see what’s on the board - hopefully a developer ROM, but who knows. Will be fun if it is something interesting!
Posted by: max1zzz on 2022-01-21 11:33:27
I’ve only got the board unfortunately.
I have a case I would be happy to let go of, but it's in fairly rough condition and I don't have the metal chassis that goes in it so it's probably not of much use

If your feeling creative a RGB2HDIM can be used t convert the video signal of the mac into something that can be used on a modern screen
Yeah I’m mainly interested to see what’s on the board - hopefully a developer ROM, but who knows. Will be fun if it is something interesting!
Well if you are in the UK I have access to both macs it may work in and a EPROM programmer
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2022-01-21 11:46:32
Yeah I’m mainly interested to see what’s on the board - hopefully a developer ROM, but who knows. Will be fun if it is something interesting!

Well if you are in the UK I have access to both macs it may work in and a EPROM programmer

I have working SE/30s and a IIsi in Wiltshire, if that's any closer/more convenient than max is...
Posted by: Performa450 on 2022-01-21 12:06:04
I have a case I would be happy to let go of, but it's in fairly rough condition and I don't have the metal chassis that goes in it so it's probably not of much use

If your feeling creative a RGB2HDIM can be used t convert the video signal of the mac into something that can be used on a modern screen

Well if you are in the UK I have access to both macs it may work in and a EPROM programmer
I was about to say I’d take you up on that, but have just realised my Interactive TV Box has a 64 pin ROM slot! I’ll have a look at that first.
Posted by: max1zzz on 2022-01-21 12:55:04
I was about to say I’d take you up on that, but have just realised my Interactive TV Box has a 64 pin ROM slot! I’ll have a look at that first.
Great 🙂 if that doesn't work just drop me a PM
Posted by: Performa450 on 2022-01-21 13:18:42
Great 🙂 if that doesn't work just drop me a PM
Thanks! If it doesn't work I'll probably leave it a week or so as we have COVID in the house at the moment, not going anywhere soon.
Posted by: MrFahrenheit on 2022-01-21 22:25:34
I looked through all of the code names and could not find a Lobos. Which means Timberwolf. Nothing for that either. I do remember something being called Lobos, but what I can’t think of.
Posted by: Johnnya101 on 2022-01-22 05:29:32
I wonder if it could be a prototype ROM board name, and being such, it was too insignificant to record it? So instead of a whole computer being named Lobos, it was just this ROM simm?
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