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Posted by: dogbiscuit on 2008-04-17 13:20:26
Hi all,
I have an LC475 that I'm trying to get running. I was getting the diskette+?. I figured it needed a reinstall. Since it won't boot I needed the Network Access diskette. I ran through a dozen diskettes trying to find one that would format ok and finally managed to put Network Access on it (via Stuffit and rawrite2). Trying to boot off it, the diskette+? changed into a diskette+X. In the LC475's defense, the diskette was probably bad anyway.
What do the 2 diskette icons mean?
If I do an opt+power I get sadMac with 0000000F and 0000000D.
What does that mean?
By the way, I have put a new battery in it and zapped the pram. And my only other computer is a windoze laptop, hence the rawrite2.
Any suggestions what to do from here?
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Posted by: JRL on 2008-04-17 13:32:50
The sad mac code you got is "a 68k exception" aka: a software error. The diskette and X probably means that the disk is bad somehow, and given how hard it is to make a Mac disk entirely from a PC, I can't blame you.
If you get ahold of another floppy-capable mac with PC Exchange, this is what you should do:
1:Copy the plain unexpanded file to a PC-formatted floppy.
2😛ut the floppy in the Mac.
3:Copy the .sit file to the Mac.
4:Unstuff with Stuffit Expander 4.0.1.
5:Use Disk Copy to make a floppy.
This is probably the easiest way IMO.
Not to be stupid, but you didn't try to boot it off a PC-formatted disk, right?
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Posted by: dogbiscuit on 2008-04-17 13:38:25
The sad mac code you got is "a 68k exception" aka: a software error. Garbage on the diskette? I guess I need to get a decent boot diskette. I'll get a new box of diskettes and try it again.
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Posted by: benjgvps on 2008-04-17 13:54:45
By any chance are you extracting the files to your desktop and then putting them on a floppy?
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Posted by: dogbiscuit on 2008-04-17 13:59:48
By any chance are you extracting the files to your desktop and then putting them on a floppy? Yep, I'm using Stuffit to extract the files to a Wondoze folder and then rawrite2 to put it on a floppy. Is that ok?
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Posted by: JRL on 2008-04-17 14:15:20
http://macfaq.org/software/macos.shtml#Q1.1.6
You're following these instructions, right?
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Posted by: Quadraman on 2008-04-17 14:31:26
Don't scrap a 475 ever. They are always worth resurrecting because they had the best screen of the 4xx line. The 480 was a pale shadow of the 475 using cheaper parts to keep the price down.
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Posted by: dogbiscuit on 2008-04-17 14:50:31
http://macfaq.org/software/macos.shtml#Q1.1.6
You're following these instructions, right? Well... all except for the 'error free floppy' bit. I think that I need to find some good quality diskettes rather than the rubbish I've been using. The trouble is trying to find floppies anymore, especially good ones.
Do you know exactly what the 'diskette+?' and the 'diskette+X' mean?
Thanks...
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Posted by: JRL on 2008-04-17 15:15:43
The question mark means that either your hard drive is dead, there is no OS, or the OS is missing something. The x, like I said before, means that your OS disk is either bunk(damaged) or the HDD wasn't formatted properly(which isn't your case).
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Posted by: dogbiscuit on 2008-04-17 15:21:09
Ok, sounds like the future of the world all hinges on whether I can get the Network Access diskette working.
Thanks for the info...
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Posted by: Bunsen on 2008-04-17 21:45:52
Uh, Quadraman? The 475 doesn't have a screen. It's a pizzabox. There's no 480. You're thinking of the 575 and 580.
dogbiscuit - what version of the Network Access disk are you using?
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Posted by: dogbiscuit on 2008-04-18 01:18:00
I'm not sure, I downloaded it from the Apple web site, but it expanded into a 1.441 Mb image. I just tried it again following the pointer from the macfaq.org website (version 7.5), expanded it and it's only 1275 Mb. Maybe my first image was the wrong Networ... system? Is there more than 1? Maybe I screwed it up unpacking it... I'll see if I can create another diskette and try it again.
There's a glimmer at the end of the tunnel... is it salvation or the Mac express?
Thanks...
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Posted by: dogbiscuit on 2008-04-18 02:46:04
No joy, it was the Mac express...
I have formatted and copied the image to 4 different diskettes, using both rawrite2 and Winima81, they both seem to create the floppy ok but the diskette will not boot.
If I insert the diskette prior to power up, it is ejected 3-4 seconds after switching on the Mac and I get the 'diskette+X'. I can hear the diskette drive doing continual seeks, whether the diskette is in or not.
If I insert the diskette after power up (the 'diskette+X' is already on the screen) it seems to change nothing, I hear the diskette drive doing continual seeks. The only way to get the diskette back out is a pin in the little hole or cycle the power switch.
I wish I knew someone local with a Mac, I'd get them to create a boot diskette.
Any other suggestions?
Thanks...
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Posted by: dogbiscuit on 2008-04-18 03:24:07
I just remembered having an old G3 beige mini-tower. I pulled the diskette drive out of it and put it in the LC475. Now I get the 'diskette+?' on boot up, which I guess is a plus. The diskette drive can't stay in the LC475 since the connector is in a different location and I'm going to try and resurrect the G3 as well.
I tried the Network Access floppies in it and the LC475 rejects them all, ejecting them and displaying the 'diskette+X'. It is showing more signs of life than before. At least its alive enough to eject the floppies.
Any suggestions? Know any place I can get a real Mac Network Access diskette?
Thanks...
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Posted by: dogbiscuit on 2008-04-18 03:57:05
Tried creating a new diskette but the 475 ejects it, displaying the 'diskette+X', so obviously it doesn't like whatever's there.
I even tried the 6.0.8 boot diskette, but it doesn't like it either. It's as though the Mac can tell it isn't a 'real' Mac diskette.
Any thoughts?
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Posted by: gilles on 2008-04-18 06:21:41
test the drive with another mac...
test your 475 with another drive...
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Posted by: JRL on 2008-04-18 06:36:42
Or better yet, find an actual system disk set on eBay. System disk sets are getting common these days.
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Posted by: wood_e on 2008-04-18 18:57:40
give the 475 to me?
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Posted by: chris on 2008-04-18 19:34:54
How about make a disk with the G3...
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