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Mac SE with a weird PDS card
Posted by: gobabushka on 2008-03-22 05:33:21
Wel, I went to my favorite place for old electronics once again, Astro Too, and found a Mac SE just sittin on the floor! So I managed to get it for free! There was also an LC II, should I go back and get it, even tho it didnt power up?

EDITL Pics of the card will soon follow, i just need to get the machine in my house, past my dad first!

Posted by: Quadraman on 2008-03-22 06:33:27
It's debatable about getting the LC. For free you can afford to take your chances with it, but you take a big risk if they want money for it. Those old LC's suffer from leaky capacitors the same as the SE/30's so if it's been sitting for while with leaks the motherboard could be rotted away in places. So basically if it's free, go for it, you have nothing to lose as it could be repairable or at the very least you might get some usable parts out of it.

Posted by: Bunsen on 2008-03-22 06:37:56
At least pop the lid and check for obvious signs of goo around the caps. It may not power up because the PRAM battery is dead. If you have a good battery, take it in with you. If not, try the on for a while, quick off-on trick.

Posted by: aphetica on 2008-03-22 10:04:14
NO MAC LEFT BEHIND. Save them all!

Posted by: gobabushka on 2008-03-22 12:27:42
i went back today and found out why it was not powering up. the ps is clicking so i left it. and also ran into a fellow mla'er sawtoothdude

Posted by: TylerEss on 2008-03-22 16:10:47
My LC stopped powering up a while ago due to the clicking PSU. I was in a hurry to test some things and was a bit annoyed 'cuz I didn't have another LC to use.

So, I ripped open the PSU to see what I could see. Lo, and behold: the caps in the PSU had leaked goo all over inside it. I gave it the kitchen-sink treatment and my LC is working fine again. Someday I'll have to recap the PSU but I bet that won't be for a few years at least.

Posted by: gobabushka on 2008-03-23 07:46:54
well, i just cracked the SE open, and lo and behold, the card inside is none other that an AST Mac86!!!!!!! Any idea where i can find some drivers, im not sure that I can get the drivers off the internal hd, because its having severe stiction problems

Posted by: TylerEss on 2008-03-23 22:25:03
Congrats on an awesome find! I hope you have good luck getting it running. System 6 / Minix anyone?

Posted by: Bunsen on 2008-03-24 00:11:27
Good Lord! Is that an x86 in an SE??

Posted by: Dan 7.1 on 2008-03-24 06:51:20
Good Lord! Is that an x86 in an SE??
http://lowendmac.com/ii/mac286.html

looks like. pretty frickin cool.

Posted by: Quadraman on 2008-03-24 07:17:43
Holy crap that was sweet find. There's not many SE's out there that can run DOS anymore. I have a similar thing for the Atari ST called the Supercharger that has an 8086 and came with MSDOS 4.01.

Posted by: gobabushka on 2008-03-24 07:45:46
i just cant find the drivers for it! i am trying to get the hard drive to spin, but i think its dead, already tried hitting it and freezing it.

Posted by: Patrickool93 on 2008-03-24 08:06:44
Try holding it in your hands and spinning, sometimes it will make the stiction lose it's grip.

Posted by: Bunsen on 2008-03-24 08:16:25
i just cant find the drivers for it!
Have you tried the ones for the Mac286?

Posted by: wood_e on 2008-03-24 09:14:39
awesome find!

Posted by: Unknown_K on 2008-03-24 12:55:49
Never heard of that board, nice find. AST sold off their designs to Orange Micro, I like their 386 and 486 Nubus cards.

Whatever you do don't junk that SE HD, I would think the rare drivers are on that disk. Could be the heads are stuck to the platters.

Posted by: Franklinstein on 2008-03-25 00:05:31
What make/model hard drive is it? Several older drives, from IBM, MiniScribe, Quantum, Sony, and a few others had the bottom of the spindle motor exposed thru the lower case.

Sometimes, on some of these older drives, removing the drive's PCB and giving the spindle motor a LIGHT spin will be enough to break the stiction.

Posted by: Dan 7.1 on 2008-03-25 06:39:30
i really wanted one of the Orange Micro Athlon-based cards back in the day. of course, there are none on ebay because nobody bought them in the first place :-/

Posted by: Microns on 2008-03-30 14:03:58
Driver?

A quick visit to http://hotline.tracker-tracker.com and search for Mac86 turns up a 28.65MB file titled: TB2Mac86CD.dmg on the Hotline server Merlin at 91.16.65.134:5500

Cheers...

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