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Posted by: IPNixon on 2008-03-12 11:51:37
I found a Quicksilver G4 in a computer recycling bin today. Sticker says it's an 867 MHz, and it has no RAM or HD. I found it in pieces, but it has the logic board, PSU, optical, and zip drives.
I'm not going to be home until about 6:30 or so, so I'll try it out then.
Woo! 🙂
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Posted by: MacMan on 2008-03-12 12:07:00
Sounds like you have most of the essential components there. What a great free find!
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Posted by: IPNixon on 2008-03-12 16:10:43
Update: It works! I'm posting from it now. SWEET. 😀
I have 1GB of RAM installed, but it's only seeing 768MB. I'm about to try that stick in another slot.
I put a 30GB HD in, with Leopard.
😀
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Posted by: Christopher on 2008-03-12 16:53:18
Thats sweet, what kind of video card?
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Posted by: IPNixon on 2008-03-12 17:16:01
GeForce2, 32MB RAM
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Posted by: Temetka on 2008-03-12 23:15:55
Excellent find.
Just enough specs to run the latest OS, and it's free.
Truly a great score.
Enjoy your new box.
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Posted by: bluekatt on 2008-03-12 23:31:12
might be that that ram stick is either faulty or the ram slot is fried ( which might be why it was junked in pieces)
either way good find
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Posted by: iamdigitalman on 2008-03-13 01:44:33
Even if one slot is fried, couldnt you just put in 3 512mb sticks to still get the maximum of 1.5gb? because at least 2 slots support 512mb sticks, if the RAM limit is 1.5gb, there would have to be 512x2 and 256x2.
still, quite a nice find. I have been trying to get a G4 system for under $100, which seems to be unobtanium lately.
-digital 😉
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Posted by: IPNixon on 2008-03-13 03:21:22
It was the stick. I didn't realize one of my 256MB DIMMs is PC100, and the Quicksilver only sees 133.
Oh, well. 768MB is plenty for me. I can always add another 128MB to get 896MB, if I really needed it.
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Posted by: iamdigitalman on 2008-03-13 05:22:13
it can only read PC133? I thought it was interchangeable. I know PC133 runs just fine in PC100 slots, it just throttles down. But PC133 slots should be perfectly compatible with PC100s. I know my mom's toshiba laptop takes PC2100, but i was using a PC2700 stick in the second slot. I tried the opposite, and the PC2100 worked just fine in a PC2700 slot. Maybe the stick is just totally dead...
-digital 😉
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Posted by: IPNixon on 2008-03-13 07:02:03
When I get home later (on iPhone in pre-calc now 😛 ), I'll try some other sticks in it.
I remember that stick particularly working in my Cube, and seeing that it was PC100. That stick is the one that's reportedly not working.
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Posted by: Quadraman on 2008-03-13 08:45:11
it can only read PC133? I thought it was interchangeable. I know PC133 runs just fine in PC100 slots, it just throttles down. But PC133 slots should be perfectly compatible with PC100s. I know my mom's toshiba laptop takes PC2100, but i was using a PC2700 stick in the second slot. I tried the opposite, and the PC2100 worked just fine in a PC2700 slot. Maybe the stick is just totally dead...
-digital 😉 You can't use PC100 memory in PC133 slot even though they are physically compatible. The memory would be overclocked 33%. You can put PC133 memory in a PC100 slot because it's not being overclocked.
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Posted by: Temetka on 2008-03-13 09:42:19
it can only read PC133? I thought it was interchangeable. I know PC133 runs just fine in PC100 slots, it just throttles down. But PC133 slots should be perfectly compatible with PC100s. I know my mom's toshiba laptop takes PC2100, but i was using a PC2700 stick in the second slot. I tried the opposite, and the PC2100 worked just fine in a PC2700 slot. Maybe the stick is just totally dead...
-digital 😉 You are on crack.
PC100 will not run in a PC133 board. Ok, sure you can cram the stick in there. Heck if it was a god module with an SPD chip it could run ok. However most of the time the answer is no.
By running the PC100 stick, he drops the bus from 133MHz to 100MHz. This places a large bottleneck in the system, which of course affects overall system performance.
Remind never to hire you as a tech.
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Posted by: Christopher on 2008-03-13 10:14:22
LOL! Thats what I have been trying to tell him! JK!
Maybe he always has PC-133 and the system's he uses are always down clocking them.
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Posted by: IPNixon on 2008-03-13 10:45:42
I honestly just haven't noticed; the majority of my RAM comes from machines I've inherited in some particular way. Well, except my 512MB stick, which I bought new a few months ago.
Still in school, anticipating the last bell in about 20 minutes :-/
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Posted by: Temetka on 2008-03-13 11:04:54
Sigh...
Ok, look. On a PC-133 system, you can use either PC-133, or PC-100. If you run PC-133 this will ensure normal operation and keep the system bus at 133MHz. If you run PC-100 then the bus will drop to the highest speed of the slowest stick. In other words you drop the entire system bus from 133MHz to 100MHz. This is not good. Buy better RAM.
On a PC-100 system you can still run either module. Although some older systems have problems recognizing high density modules. Feel free to mix and match PC-100 and PC-133 sticks. If you stick a PC-66 stick in there, the same rule applies. The system bus will drop.
On a PC-66 system (G3's, PII, Celeron, K6, K5, etc.) you can run any damned module you want. There is nothing slower than PC-66 so go for it. Keep in mind though that the sticks must be SDRAM modules and not SIMMS. There are PC-66 SIMMS out there for a few franken-motherboards that appeared for a short time.
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Posted by: Temetka on 2008-03-13 11:08:45
You can't use PC100 memory in PC133 slot even though they are physically compatible. The memory would be overclocked 33%. You can put PC133 memory in a PC100 slot because it's not being overclocked. Swing and a miss. The RAM does not get over clocked. The faster ram gets under clocked.
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Posted by: Quadraman on 2008-03-13 15:31:54
You can't use PC100 memory in PC133 slot even though they are physically compatible. The memory would be overclocked 33%. You can put PC133 memory in a PC100 slot because it's not being overclocked. Swing and a miss. The RAM does not get over clocked. The faster ram gets under clocked.
Sorry but I've tried moving memory out of PC100 machines into PC 133 machines and they DO NOT WORK EVER in my experience.
What you say also makes no sense because if the system bus drops, so does the speed of the CPU, the drives,and everything else that depends on the bus for it's timings. Putting a PC100 stick in a 533 Digital Audio (which I have never gotten to work anyway) would lower it to a 400mhz machine if your logic follows.
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Posted by: Temetka on 2008-03-13 15:54:37
The bus should lower itself to the speed of the lowest RAM. In this case PC-100. Now on certain machines, the whole bus is effected. On some machines just the memory bus is affected. I am not sure if the QS will drop the whole system bus, or just the memory bus.
No way in hell does it auto-OC the RAM from PC-100 to PC-133.
Sorry but I've tried moving memory out of PC100 machines into PC 133 machines and they DO NOT WORK EVER in my experience.
What you say also makes no sense because if the system bus drops, so does the speed of the CPU, the drives,and everything else that depends on the bus for it's timings. Putting a PC100 stick in a 533 Digital Audio (which I have never gotten to work anyway) would lower it to a 400mhz machine if your logic follows. Exactly. PC-100 does NOT work in PC-133 boards at PC-133 speeds. IME moving the RAM from a PC-100 machine to a PC-133 machine is hit and miss. Either it will work (albeit at slower speed), or it won't run at all. In the rare instance you can find PC-100 RAM that is happy at PC-133 speeds.
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